very good point fero

and yes i'm arrogant, vain, proud, strong willed, opinionated, i'm sure others on this board have other words to describe me

the point of my post is to point out that you are a bitter and biased person against religion...what is the intent of this post? i do hope it's not to bring others forth and try to tear them down for being religious by your cliche concepts...you've made your hatred for religion and all forms of faith very obvious, your insults and dismissal toward those who believe is borderline bigotry. I just want to make sure this is a genuine interest of yours.

and yes i am rude especially to children who judge my intelligence on the basis that i have the strength to believe, the power to understand, and the wisdom to realize a mind is the most powerful force in the world...sadly too few use it!