Originally Posted by rigel

Self-control is useless. It's something you fight your whole life and you end up losing it. You control youreself not to smoke, not to eat, to drink, to fuck, to commit "sins" and everything else. But one day you eventually do. In fact, self-control is not just useless, it's worthless.

Observe that i'm not telling you to lose control and live like an animal. That's simply stupid. We all live in a world full of hypocrits, but those hypocrits have laws, guns, jails, churches, money, and they will do everything they can to hunt you down. Observe also that i'm not telling you to hide in the shadows and commit your sins on your basement, again like an animal. This procedure only turns you into a hidden beast, and the world outside will no longer taste you so sweet. Your true self will be confined to those four walls and you will never surface again.

The true beauty of throwing away the self-control is to do that in plain face and nobody noticing. Unfortunatelly, this takes ages of mastering, many friends lost, many movings and depending on the situation, 4 to 20 years on a jail. But I can teach you some tricks that may help you in your quest. If you're interested on doing that, of course.

First of all, you must remain hidden. I'm not talking about the basement stuff: there are many ways to remain hidden in front of a thousand people. Observation is a key. Questioning is another. Taste your prey before you swallow it. Smell it. Watch it. With enough patience you will see what i'm talking about.

People like to talk. You shouldn't do that. You job is just to keep asking, with a straight poker face and a casual look, while your prey massages their own ego telling their life to you. Then you select. The process is easy for the trained. A little complex for the begginners. Usually people tends to involve theirselves with their prey and you mustn't do that. They are prey, just that. You will have enough time to choose something better than a prey to you later.

Then you play mind games. They are not complex nor difficult, and a bunch of literature books can give you some useful tricks to test. I personally sugest anything written by Milan Kundera or Henry Miller. They are real experts in the art of dealing with average people.

The mind games will help you to find your prey's weakness and feast uppon it. Some people exchange love for compliements, others, exchange money for drugs. The ones you must seek are the ones that exchange their souls for pleasure.

That done you should move on. Prey selected, you can start showing yourself little by little, always exchanging something back. With time, addiction to pleasure makes people zombies, and that is the exact time you can lose your self-control and swallow your prey. They will never notice. Friends turns to lovers all the time, and your case is just another one. Almost.

Your relationship with your prey will be of slavery but you must be a kind master. Always a friend, always a shoulder. But always a hunter.

Self-control is useless. It was invented to be destroyed. And everybody else wants to do it, but are afraid of reataliation. You are the link, the nexus of it all. You will be the freedom symbol, where people will be confortable on losing their self-control with you in exchange of your liberty to lose freely your self-control.

At last, when you prey does not make you so happy anymore, move on. But don't throw it away. Keep it close, always feeding, but always away while you look for another prey. It's better to have two birds in two hands, than none.

-- Rigel

Originally Posted by sixxx(sic)six

The interesting thing is that free-will is perhaps the most unjustified theory for intelligent design . . . at least in the case of Christianity

I'm sort of indifferent about the whole free-will topic myself. I understand the concept behind it, but there's a lot of different ways to look at it. For example, organisms die . . . that's a fate we all seemingly cannot escape.

I can't remember who said it (Hume, Locke?), but the theory was almost justifying fate, but by a backwards approach rather than forwards. For example, it's not fate which allots for this or that, but the decision itself . . . which, in the long run, suggests that the opposing decision is now a moot consideration. For example, I can go to work or not go to work. I went to work. Is that a case of free-will or fate? (Obviously, when we think of fate we generally think of something deeper and more meaningful . . . like falling in love . . . but bare with me). The decision not to go to work, now that I'm at work, cannot be called into question. It's an "if" statement, which has a subjective consideration of meaningless-ness. In other words, my decision not to go to work was never really an option, when looked at in hind-sight. Ergo, the decision itself might be an aspect of free-will, but what I've decided is ultimately the only option I had . . . as to consider the other, after having made a decision, is nil.