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sixxx(sic)six · 12-19-07

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Originally Posted by SwampWitch

The question itself establishes that the tree exists; and we know that trees fall and make a loud thud and move some dirt and leaves aside as they hit the ground.

Maybe the sound of the tree falling is something I don't hear, so the sound doesn't exist for me, but the air was moved and the tree crashed to the ground whether I was there or not. Does it change things if a squirrel heard it?

I am insignificant. What I perceive or don't makes absolutely no difference to the universe as it keeps churning along.

I cannot see it any other way. O.K. you can call me thick now.

No, your not thick . . . you're just a realist. And that's just groovy . . . not my cup of tea, but you have a valid point. But you must keep in mind that sound is only understood as such by beings that are capable of understanding it as such. That's not to say that a squirrel lacks the ability to hear, but I doubt very much a squirrel considers the sound of a tree falling in the same light that man does.

The only reason we know there's a loud thudding and whooshing sound when a tree falls is because 1) empirical observations have proven this to be the case; and 2) we have systematically assigned principles to natural phenomenas. Ergo, it is almost impossible for a person to concieve of the possibilty of a tree falling without sound, despite the lack of a person within range to empircally observe (sound) this phenomena.

However, is it really that impossible to concieve this?

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