some interesting points.

torchwood and doctor who aren't completely different, they come from the same subject and are all based in the same 'universe' of characters and stories.

yes the torchwood episodes are more "adult"

they're not aimed at children, and are not aimed at families. doctor who IS. It always has been a family show, all the way back to the first episodes with William Hartnell in 1963.

To say the two series are completely unrelated and are completely different shows is rediculous. They're from the same source.

Doctor Who is not just for children, it is for adults alike. Many of the older shows are much too advanced in subject and technicality and suchlike to be considered "just for kids" that.... is completely wrong.

The audience for Doctor Who and Torchwood overlap. Doctor Who is a Family show, and I know people as young as 13 who love Torchwood. The subject matter may be more "adult" but don't think that constricts the audience into a certain age group.

Yes i agree. the last series was... well... badly done. some of the episodes were brilliant. but i do agree with you on the rose front. it seemed as if the writers were trying to guilt trip billie piper back. the constant comparison just didnt make it seem like a series, more like a interrim.

i do actually have to say, rose is growing to be a favourite of mine in terms of companions. ACE has to be my favourite, but yeah.

I'd agree with the "no dalek" but it does get more audiences, and the dalek stories have been brilliant.

good points, but some i do have to disagree on.