Originally Posted by Dark Messiah

No, it's because you're flat-out wrong. I don't actually say that that often. You're saying that spanking, the act of striking a child on the buttocks, does not cause them pain. This argument is completely nonsensical. It does not line up with reality. You might think that the definition of spanking is to pull your kid across your knee and give them a couple faux whacks to demonstrate that you could, if you wanted, cause them pain, but that's not how it's actually used. The vast, vast majority of parents that use spanking cause their kids real pain. If you think that's a beating and immoral... well, yeah, welcome to the conversation. I'm not sure that a couple of pretend swats as a demonstration of power is the best child-rearing technique either, but that's not the topic under discussion. That's not what the term means at all. Try talking to parents who use spanking and telling them that if they cause their child real pain, it's child abuse or immoral. See if they agree with you.