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02-27-07

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Originally Posted by Dyshade View Post
All together it creates an average which may or may not be about 1million dollars a year.
I'm going to assume this is Dyshade speak for, "Yes, you're right, I just made that number up."

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Of course though you shall put forth your simple minded argument that you have put forth several times in this thread which is that noone understands nything yet you yourself are brimming with all the answers and all of the knowledge that we in our feeble minded delusional lives can never know. Forgive me my lack of anything including "morals".
It would be easier to forgive your lack of anything resembling an argument if you did not still, somehow, try to push your case.

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Now. If it costs 12 Billion dollars to just house the lower security prisoners in California it stands to reason that we are looking at huge costs to keep the growing prison populations incarcerated. We can help keep those costs lower by executing those who do not deserve life itself much less deserve us supporting that life. Of course the victims often do not see near the support the monster who took the lives sees.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is a terrible idea to make it easy for the government to kill people. The result can only ever be corruption and tyranny.

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Life is precious. When it is taken those who take it in murder must be punished with all due finality.
Except, I assume you mean, for those who take the life of those who took life in the first place.

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Allowing them to live grants them hope. Something which they should never have.
Besides the lack of logical support behind this statement, sans the discovery of real life Dementors I think you're pretty boned on this anyway. Look up some last testaments from those put to death by the state. It's actually shocking to me how hopeful most of them are.

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Something which they have actively and with force stolen from another. Whether or not it will ever deter another or stop more crime it will most certainly stop them from committing the same crime again. You cannot refute the cold logic of that statement with any "straw-man" arguments. It is fact. Once they are dead they will kill no other innocents nor anyone else for that matter.
Should there be the slightest possibility that they will commit murder in jail?

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You cannot provide absolute certainty any other way. Murderers have been paroled and killed again, escaped and killed again, and killed again in jail under guard. Yet no executed murderer has ever killed another.
Certainly this is an argument for reform of the jail system, which currently condones indirectly murderous and criminal activities between inmates. Certainly there should be a crackdown on jail reform that prevents inmates from being able to attack and rape and kill one another.

But where, from here, does it follow that the best alternative is to kill them? Decades spent in hard labor helps society; the death penalty provides only revenge.


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