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Originally Posted by Synikul  There are numerous examples of aggressive warfare that is entirely justified in the eyes of the people who participate in it.
Serbia felt morally justified in expelling the muslim Albanians from their land, as did those Albanians in rebelling to acheive the secession of Kosovo when they became the majority of that population.
The Confederate States of America seceeded peacefully except for expelling Federal garrisons. Was Lincoln justified in using aggressive action against them to preserve the Union?
The entire history of Islam's expansion is aggressive and they consider it their moral duty to do so, as did the Christian Crusaders who invaded and secured the Holy Land.
In the last 50 years there have been numerous potential wars in Asia that were only averted after the threat of violence when one nation, upstream of another, wanted to divert or dam a river. Do you consider that aggressive action?
There is an ongoing conflict in Kashmir. India owns it, but the muslims who live there want to be part of Pakistan. Both sides feel entirely justified in killing the other, and both have a morally arguable case.
I could find more examples if I felt like taking the time to look them up.
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Okay, I'll admit that my definition of aggressive action fell outside of my point. Being that a justification is given based on a percieved need to defend oneself from a threat.
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Originally Posted by Synikul You should read Mein Kampf. You wouldn't have said this if you understood his plans for Ukraine.
True, but you're still assuming that the aggressor is always unjustified. |
I'm not so much as concerned with the justifications as much as I am with why some nations find no justification and currently do not act aggresively on an international scale.
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Originally Posted by Synikul No, but only because they don't want to get their ass kicked again. Under similar duress today they would probably go total isolationist. |
I don't buy that premise. They might legitimately defend themselves and lobby for fair treatment but they wouldn't react with genocide because they know that it doesn't "work".