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12-05-06

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Originally Posted by apostate87 View Post
logic means you take a few fundamental ideas, assume that they're true, and derive new knowledge and relationships from it. so, we must assume something is true. it can either be the fairy tale crap you're serving or the dry unimaginative crap from history books. take your pick.
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

This is WHERE you get so screwed up. This is HOW you get so screwed up!

You CANNOT assume ANYTHING! is true!

You cannot USE logic with unverified assumptions!

Logic is finding connections between things that ACTUALLY EXIST

NOT imagining untrue assumptions and untrue connections that do NOT actually exist.

You cannot be logical by 'assuming' fantasy.

This is logic:

Your arm is connected to your wrist: TRUE!

Your wrist is connected to your hand: TRUE!

Your shoulder is connected to your hand: UNTRUE! ILLOGICAL!

Your shoulder is connected to your upper arm which is connected to your forearm which is connected to your wrist which is connected to your hand: TRUE!

Apples and oranges are the same

UNTRUE NOT LOGICAL

Apples are a fruit. oranges are also a fruit

TRUE!

The only way you can be logical is if you FOLLOW the ACTUAL CONNECTIONS.

You CANNOT be logical if you dream up NON-EXISTENT CONNECTIONS that exist only in your mind.

BUT!!!

If you search for connections that have not yet been discovered... you can find out the TRUTH of how things are actually connected to each other.

The science of ecology was discovered by scientisits who found out that there were many CONNECTIONS between things like weather, climate, soil, temperature, species, survival tactics, adaptaions to environment, etc etc.

NONE of these connections they discovered are IMAGINARY!! They actually EXIST.

THAT is LOGIC

THAT is discovering an entire SCIENCE of connections that is so damn complex, and so fascinating: that the scope of its exploration is IINFINITE!

Before this new science was discovered: humans were BLIND to the destructive effect they were having on their own eco-environments.

You are VERY BADLY EDUCATED.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

Do not get insulted at ME

Get FURIOUS at the idiots who lied to you and gave you your lousy education!
  
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