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Originally Posted by apostate87 i'm glad turak found us here, i'm finally starting to see the light.
what have i been doing all this time? i've been killing grass by walking on it, protozoa by digesting in im the water i drink, swallowing spiders while i sleep and think of all the food i eat! all those lives destroyed for my existence! oh tuna fish! oh tomatoe! oh bacon and lettuce! damn my perverted desire for delicious food!
oh, how foolish to consider a human life better than a tomatoe. oh, i see it all so clearly now. think, really think, like turak is telling us, about cutting a baby's head open and making a sandwich. it looks like a tomato, doesn't it? coincidence or something more?
christ, we need to stop eating the world or else, before long, there'll be no food left to eat! jesus, it's all so obvious when i think about it. what've i been doing all my life!!!
oh, it's so true, i'm so worthless by virtue of my poor luck at being born into a normal 1st world life. why couldn't i have been a tomato? at least i wouldn't have been evil. at least i would have had that.
i'll wake up every day now and realize that i shoudln't think about hard questions since i'm privileged, stuck up and already so far twisted from the good path that my very thought process is a perversion of nature. i am not a part of nature, humanity is unnatural. omg! the light!
oh, oh yes, it's such a warm feeling to finally know the truth. it's like a warm blanket that helps me plant beans with the others who've seen the light, though it's cold out and i'm stark naked (clothes? christ jesus.) oh damn it, the world is such a precious place, it makes me sad that i'm even here to take care of it - all these years of taking from the world without giving back.
but wait! omg! dogs and cats are evil too! we've made them evil and they must be eliminated! all they do is eat other living things! they're like death machines! well, i'll know what to do to all the kittens i see from now on. isn't it marvelous how much wisdom can be derived from such a small collection of non-contradictory facts of life? of nature?
in fact, i might go so far as to start worshipping turak. he must have spoken directly to god, and anyone who disagrees does not have an education and should research some facts. one cannot know what is absolutely right or wrong without having that wisdom imparted directly by god. hence, either turak has spoken with god directly, or is the g-man himself. i never believed in god before, but i believed such rash things! that eating was ... good? that... the world existed for our benefit? that... the strong would triumph over the weak? that... thought is possible unless hypothetical situations cease to be hypothetical by direct experience? these vague ideas are now so laughable to me as to be dismissable.
oh, i used to wish my existence had meaning, used to wonder whether or not my existence was even debatable. now i know that, simultaneously, neither does it matter if i exist nor does it have any meaning, and moreover that even thinking about it makes me evil.
in my musings i've realized that mathematics is evil, vague abstract ideas used only to perpetuate our meaningless existence on this naturally superior planet. it is invented by evil beings to evil ends and is thus the devil's plaything.
philosophy, too, is wrongheaded since we all know what is true (if you didn't before, you do now, thanks to our god king, turak) and anything else is just the meaningless result of our generation's being lied to by evil consumerist capitalist money-pandering, murdering, selfish and generally evil overlords.
however, our benign leader does leave us just enough (just enough) leeway in interpreting his absolute, eternal and unwavering truths, that is, while saying what's wrong with the world, he leaves it to us to determine what is right. he tells us we're wrong without giving away the answer, thus setting us in the right direction without (explicitly) dictating the future of forumkind. bravo, duca! bravo, maestro! i see a definite parallel between turak's not telling us what to do and his giving creatures 'free will'. he gives us a nudge, but it has to be us that does it. then he can nod in approval and we can die fulfilled.
turak, ascend back to heaven, i will spread your gospel. go taste the nectar and ambrosia of heaven and wait for us, your disciples, to ascend to live with you forever and ever in the eternal and overarching luminescence of your ultimate omnipotence and total omniscience.
turak, god among men, departs for the heavens. so it was in the second coming of the lord. |
Let me bring some logic into your rambling:
The tomato does not need you to exist. It can exist perfectly fine without you killing it.
You... on the ohter hand... DO need that tomato. In fact you are addicted to killing that tomato over and over again.
You NEED millions and billions of things to exist at all.
Without them: you would DIE.
The scientific facts of ecosystems that are pyramidal in nature PROVE this. The Dynamics of ALL pyrmaidal hierarchical constructs are this:
The higher up you are on the pyramid: the more you need the base to support your existence.
However... the base does NOT NEED YOU my friend... It does NOT WANT YOU my friend... in fact it hates your guts my friend.
The Dynamics of hierarchical civilization is the same. The Queen of England is a perfect example. Once you get to the top of ANY system: YOU BECOME USELESS. You become a huge LIABILITY. You become HATED.
What good is the Queen of England to England? She owns millions of acres of prime real estate. She owns entire castles and mansions. The Government has to use BILLIONS of dollars just so she can sit on her royal ass and do NOTHING. Billions of pounds that could be better spent on the people who EARNED that money. She is an obsolete anachronism. She is an eyesore.
She NEEDS the entire British Nation to even exist. The entire Nation can do perfectly fine without her.
If any of all the millions of precious consumer articles to which you are accustomed to disappears from the shelves... you will begin to become OUTRAGED that your hitherto-accustomed consumer lifestyle has been so rudely disrupted...
What? No more fish on the market? HOW COME! I LIKE EATING FISH!
er... oh. You mean 7 billion people eating fish had detsroyed all the fisihing grounds and all the fish are AXTINCT. DEAD. GONE. Because of your stupid spoiled lifestyle.
You are just another arrogant consumer falling from the Empire State building... As you are passing the 10th floor: You shout out gleefully to the person watching you fall from the window...:
'So FAR... SO GOOD!'
If you do not understand that the world's ecosystems are not designed to support 7 BILLION CONSUMERS LIKE YOU: then there is nothing I can say to you.
China is now trying to copy YOUR consumer life style MY FRIEND...
Do you have any effing idea what will happen to you, if one BILLION Chinese start driving cars, EH?
You will DIE from it.
Recently: a scientist found pollution in the air coming infrom the pacific ocean into malibu. He could not figure it out, so he hired planes and took air samples from the trade winds that blow across the Pacific ocean:
He found the source of the pollution. It was coming from CHINA.
So, if you go to California, and go on the BEACH... you will not be breathing clean air anymore my friend: you will be breathing polluted air. Not pollution from Los Angeles, MY FRIEND... but from CHINA.
When the pollution which YOUR lifestyle creates: becomes so bad that there is nowhere on the Earth you can go without coughing... and DYING from it.
Maybe THEN you will begin to re-thing you consumer arrogance MY FRIEND:
But by then: it will be TOO LATE my friend. Then you will be DEAD my friend...
The only leg you have to stand on as far as your logic is concerend: is that you are not dying from your own pollution and your own consumption YET.
YOUR brand of smugness: is this:
'Hey!@ I'm all right now, JACK. Let my children worry about it... I'M not dying from my lifestyle YET...'
I'll only start dying from it when I develop cancer in about twenty years! WHO CARES! FUCK DA FUTURE! FUCK DA PAST!'
And what is the result of your generation's refusal to look at the scientific facts?
crazed, screaming memees... insane empty souls... desperately trying to justify that they are so dark! so evil! So non-conformist! What a load of crap.
You are just like all the other white ciollar consumers MY FRIEND.
You should pat all the people who do not like on the back and say to them:
'Hey! I'm a consumer too! W'ere all the same! W'ere all trying to get our jollies!'
As for the rest of your illogical drivel: you are reacting MUCH TOO VIOLENTLY... to a few simple scientific facts.
Methinks you doth protest too much, eh?....