my thoughts exactly. this is intense. i've been polling people i know in the *real* world for their answers, nothing new so far. lol. i enjoy this shit way too much.

maybe the reasoning behind why something can only be deemed perfect afterwards has to do with the fact that... matter is corruptible but ideas are eternal. imagine for a second that we can only see pen 'a' from your previous example. when it ceases to exist, our blinders block out 'b'. then all that remains is the idea of what 'a' was. hence, as a pure idea, it can be deemed perfect or not.

does that make any sense? i was only halfways trying on that