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Originally Posted by sixxx(sic)six At no point in time did I declare that opposites do not exist. Opposites very much so exist...nevertheless, that doesn't mean opposition is a Truth...only a truth.
Now you're taking one said flawed theory (oppostion) and counter-arguing it with another flawed theory (perception).
What undeniable validity is there that perception is wholly justified?
1. I see a white speck in the sky. Only, it's really a ball of burning gas many, many, many light years away. Even then, said "ball of gas" might be "dead" and all I'm really observing is the light that has yet to "burn out."
1a. Counter-argument states that although in the years past it may not have been recognized for what it really was before the aid of telescopes, we today have knowledge of its being and understand it's a ball of gas. Thus, the perception isn't as flawed as argued.
1b. Counter-counter-argument. Knowledge is one thing, perception is another. All a-posteriori knowledge starts with perception...nevertheless, the QUOTE-UN-QUOTE facts of said objects don't answer all the subjects. Yes, I know stars are balls of burning gas, but I can't pinpoint this star's size, type, distance, etc. Nor all of the stars for that matter. Point being...a posterori logic might declare the object, but that doesn't necessarily declare its subjects.
2. Hallucinations. Obviously, hallucinations are examples of things "perceived" but not actually there. Hence, the perception isn't accurate. Like with a mirage.
3. People who have lost limbs often claim that the limb which is no longer there itches.
4. The subject of the object. Like with the first example...perceiving doesn't necessarily inform us of the all the parts in the object. In all the ways that you can "perceive" a loved one, there's still that quality that can't be perceived. Such as, their imagination. Their memories in full detail. Etc.
So, since we as humans often make perceptual mistakes, there's no actual proof to declare that the justification beind perception is indeed reliable and valid.
Now, again, I'm not saying things aren't warranted proofs by perception, or that perception doesn't exist. But there are flaws to the theory of perception. Arguing one flawed theory (opposition...which, I think I've pointed out its flaws, as some others have as well) with another flawed theory doesn't help the argument any.
But you still want proof that not everything has an opposition. I took upon myself to look up opposition in my hand-dandy Philosophy dictionary, and I came across something of interest.
The Principle of Polarity (oppostion) states that objects under this principle are intelligible only in the terms of their contrast to one another.
Like you sort of said: we understand hot because of cold. We understand night because of day. We understand fire because of water.
How is it we understand humans? How is it we understand triangles? Where is their opposition so readily available to us that helps us understand said objects? I've never encountered the opposite of a triangle, yet I understand a triangle. I've known what a triangle was since I was wee-little lad with my Nike Air-Jordans. Yet I didn't know, nor do I know now, what the opposite of a triangle is.
I might not understand hot without it's opposite of cold...yet, I can understand triangle without it's opposite. |
So you readily evince the knowledge that opposites do exist??
If so and they do exist one cannot say that they do not exist, hence my earlier argument.
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Originally Posted by sixxx(sic)six First and foremost...to recall the stack of money and Hitler...you do understand the concept of metaphysics...yes? A stack of hundreds isn't physically in front of you, but it exists nonetheless. A mermaid doesn't exist physically, but it still exists!
Opposition...well, if that's your theory, so be it. Not a very valid one, but a popular one nonetheless.
Likewise for any theory based on or attributed to perception. Not very valid, but popular. |
You state that opposition is not a very
valid one, theory that is.
I proposed it and you countered it and now you are retreating to a state of acceptance of the theory. It can't be both ways. It either exists or it does not. If it does not exist as a valid theory than nothing can exhibit any opposition in nature which as both of us have acknowledged is exactly what occurs
Polarity exists and I merely propose that it may indeed be indicative of the whole of existance.
I stated this as clear as I could and I will again---
Just because we do not have the knowledge does not make it so. We thought the world was flat. We did not know that it was indeed not flat but more so oblong.
Opposition does not need to be readily evident to exist. Nor does it need to in fact be duel natured, it could easily be multi-faceted. Or even composed entirely within one state.
So lets see where we are. Have we established that polarity does exist within the universe and is apparent??
If so can we also establish that from what we know of physics that if something occurs in nature that the chances of it occuring again are very high???? Stars for instance..... planets.... moons.... gravity.....