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Originally Posted by Dark Messiah This is a poor analogy. It assumes that something like material wealth or signifiers of debt can be adequately compared to priceless abstracts like liberty or love or self-destiny. That aside, the position of two parties with different amounts of a material reaching a balance closer towards an average is fundamentally different from a position of one party using an inherent advantage, say, sentience, to the benefit of a party entirely without. You might have a case with animals that show some signs of self-awareness such as dogs or dolphins, but you're not going to advance the cause of ants any. |
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Originally Posted by Dark Messiah No. Good intentions aren't enough to make the World run. Not even close. You need to know what the fuck you're talking about and doing. |
hmm well they sure do help a bit... think about it..if no one had good intentions then where would we be? for the record i said nothing of good intentions, in fact i said "cared". to actually care about something means much more than good intentions. you make sacrafices for something you care about. and you need to learn how to fucking read.
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Originally Posted by Dark Messiah You're probably destroyed the health of dozens of human beings, then. I assume you're using it as a fertilizer or some such, but human feces is a fucking poison. It's an inch removed from nuclear waste. There's a reason people go to third world countries to test out these sort of ideas. |
your right human waste (along with all feces) can be harmful, but through the right process it can be a very useful resource. but to say "It's an inch removed from nuclear waste." somebody should fucking slap you for saying that. feces (all types) are biodegradable, and the bacteria and fungus in it break it down further. but NUCLEAR waste is not biodegradable. you know, third world countries aren't the only places that use human waste as fertilizers. china has been doing it for hundreds of years and they are damn near the U.S.'s equal. oh yes and the U.S. has been doing it for about 30 years now... you would probably shit yourself if you knew how much human waste fertilizers are being used today for our agriculture. You need to know what the fuck you are talking about and doing.
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Originally Posted by Dark Messiah People who care about the enviroment are needed, and ideally, should be the average. Fishermen and lumber companies, for instance, care a great deal about the enviroment because their livelihoods and legacies rest on there being a healthy supply of fish/large trees. Self-identified enviromentalists tend to be distinctly less useful. |
i personally have nothing against fishermen and lumber companies, in fact with out them our economy would be shot. but there are ways to control them...such as aquaculture programs for the frishermen. and it's the self-identified environmentalists that are most needed. they are the ones that stand out the most, sure they may piss some people off (Dark Messiah), but they are the ones who make the biggest impact. they are the ones who reach out to others and teach alternate, sustainable lifestyles.
http://islandschool.org/research.html http://islandschool.org
in fact i got the rare privilage to attend this school... it was founded by self-identified environmentalists.
this school is able to function properly by using renuable resources and self-sustaining systems. so we got our electricity by using solar panels, collected rain water in cisterns, farmed and grew our own food, and it has been around since 1998.
the research link shows the research the school does to make the environment better. we presented our research to top bahamian government personel, top scientists/ecologists, and a dozen college/university professors. not only that but our research has been published in many scientific journals such as :
The Carribean Journal of Science. so yes Dark Messiah i do know what the fuck im talking about.