Originally Posted by theburningbush

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I dont get the buzzard sound its morning can you explain for me

Incorrect! ha and you basis this on philosphical theory which of course is a theory cant be proved and disproved and all that interesting how you tried to pass it off as fact just there though.

Exactly how can we determine that a bear does not have some form of rationale thought.

Mans primary sense interms of rationlizeing his enviroement is sight. How can we relate to and theorize about an animal whos primary source of information gathering comes from some other sensory imput? What happens when the bear smells both the samon and the honey?

Flip the question of acceptance around and I would ask you the same question. If I created a sentient rational thinking machine is it still a machine? If nature through evoultion produces an animal that does the samething is it still an animal?

The crow collects shiny objects (if you are ever interested do a little research on them extremly complex animal) is this an apprection of things shiny is it any diffrent then art.

Man does have the luxury over other species in that man has developed in souch away that members of the species can focus there energy in the pursuit of things like art ect. It could be argued that over time other animals could develop the same abilties.

There are several other animals that paint there is some dog in NYC that gets $1000 to $3000 for its paintings.