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Originally Posted by theburningbush first what you stated is not my argument but if it was you proved it for me with your comments because last time i checked everything is made up of the same stuff which you confirmed. I agree we are not stars (note this describes a singular thing) just like we are not frogs or birds we are animals (note this is plural describing many things)
lets do a logical test for what your truth is and what my belief is.
Subject to nature (to use your words)/part of animal kingdom = compatition amongest species and the species is affected by changes in the enviroment.
Man meets these requirements logic test proves true.
ok now your truth
not being subject to nature / not part of the animal kingdom = species is sentient.
as you didnt answer my orginal question ill assume you define dolphins as members of the animal kingdom ie meeting the subject to nature part of the animal kingdom defanition as are the other examples given for other sentient species. as these are members of the animal kingdom your truth fails wait truth cant fail so we move your truth back to a belief
which leaves my belief as truth as mine passed the logic test.
we are animals we have not even come close to trancending nature. |
We're not animals, and dolphins arent as smart as you think they are. They follow the same pack animal mentality that wolves and raptors used to. Its because they have a slightly stronger brain than reptiles because theyre warm blooded.
Unless youre trying to tell me DOlphins are sentient, then I will just have to laugh at you for assimilating too much hippy bullshit from all the save the whale assholes. They dont even have a language, yeah they make songs, but then again so do birds. The bird doesnt know what its saying niether do dolpins or whales. Theyre just resonating thier larings chambers and squeeling and they figured out instinctuallly that it attracts other dolphins.
And you cat compare stars to ducks or birds, a star is a singular construct, a dog is not in the same sense. SO my point still stands, you didnt even address it properly, and for someone who pretends hes logical slipping in a red herring for an argument should be beneath you.
Youre saying that if we come from the animal kingdom originally then we arer animals and I am saying that using your flawed logic that if we come from star dust then we are stars. Both are wrong.