aren't you cute?

but incorrect, so the baseless attempt at baiting me with this, won't work...wicca may have been created, but it was the late fifties, and technically a spin off from practicioners of the golden dawn and other ceremonial sort of practices...gardner didn't seem to like their methods, the books are rarely under nine dollars and you have to go to either a bookstore, occult store or online to find one, and i'm not wiccan...but many who are interested in it, are constantly whining how hard it is to find reliable, affordable books.

religion as you seem to know it, has only been around for 2000 years...and the roman catholics, even...newer...so don't start bashing religions based on how long they've been around...wicca is growing, the church is not.


research religion, today...try it, just do a search and you'll see that the vatican along with many other book religions are experiencing a drop in numbers...it may have been the largest religion at one time...but not anymore, people are looking to other methods for their spirituality.

or like the rest of your arguements are you going to continue on with your perceived know it all correctedness turning to baits and sarcasm to make your points, rather than back it up with anything, actually depicting you are correct in your...baiting?

show me some facts...that it's still the ruling religion...

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_tren.htm

they don't discuss any of the earth religions, but even those who believe in god are turning away from churches...

"As Americans continue the ancient quest for the meaning of life, Pagan and Mystical religions are experiencing a resurgence. It has been called the fastest growing religion in the West. Most Pagan religions/traditions are a blend of non-Abrahamic, ecstatic, and esoteric religions of Europe and indigenous cultures from around the world. They accept and encourage personal growth and beliefs and are concerned about religious institutionalization. Paganism is often called Neo-Paganism to emphasize the blending of ancient religions with modern ideas."

http://members.tripod.com/~TaraMiller/pagan.html

the roman catholic church is so concerned it's training exorcists enmass to help combat the declining numbers, blaming it all on the devil...

http://www.theallineed.com/news/0502/173193.htm

"It has nothing to do with the president, it has to do with you dishonoring the people that die so that you can sit here and continue to dishonor them."

Ah, but it's more honorable to sit around and find comfort in their deaths, stuck in foreign countries for a place america will never own...while their families are left husbandless, wifeless, sonless or daughterless?

wanting the soldiers home is not dishonoring him, despite your zealous instinct to make me out the evil one here...they're men and women with the same needs desires and wants that you sit around enjoying, just as i do...

however; have you done anything for them recently, have you said hi, did anything to cheer their moral, even send them nudie?

how do you know they want to be worlds away dying for people who won't give them the time of day, even the "army" they're training to protect their own country rarely cooperate...adding more difficulties to what our soldiers are having to deal with over there...it's not a cake walk waiting for the person you helped yesterday to shoot you today, but you're the expert.

when was the last time you spoke to someone over there and offered them anything besides waiting for them to die, just so you can call a person who'd rather honor them alive, dishonorable...i love them and respect the job they signed up to do, but dying for another nation...i was under the impression our military was to protect america?

if you find their deaths so glorious, so...wonderful, why not join the army and see how glorious it is to die far away from anyone who loves them, for your illustrious government who provides for them crappy equipment to fight a war?

or do you really believe they'd rather die alone than celebrate life with people who care about them?

they're doing their job, what's your reason for being so eager to hate?

it's not a world war, it's a bush war, and i still don't see how any of it's practical, or does bush really believe that our soldiers dying is the only way he'll ever hold...the middle east?

i can't wait until his presidency is up, maybe then america can be american again, and our soldiers can be welcomed with hugs and kisses, not hate and an eagerness for their death.