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11-10-05
I talk with "flame" to you people because that's the tone that this particular website carries.
Don't play condescending to me, please. It's a nice little mask, but we all know the hostility just loves to fly around this place. Even with you. That's the nature of this place and that generally imposes itself on the way we end up talking to one another on here.
I didn't state any personal insight on the matter because:
It's not that I don't have the ability, it's that if I did, I'd be speaking in a different dialect/language than you people (Leftist or Right wing) because of the methodology that everyone seems to gather their info. Rather, the opinions on here are based on Google News clips that Someone reads on the Internet or sees on CNN/BBC/etc (not the most reliable source of information, don't you agree?) and then decides to parrot the information onto here where those media clippings become the fundamental block of the discussion. I mean, who doesn't watch these things on the news...why do I need this Someone to parrot this info to me??
And surprisingly (not!) it deteriorates into racist propaganda.... now.... this happens here ALL the time. Don't you think that's kind of ... stupid? I don't CARE if someone is racist, but don't you think that it gets a little stale when that seems to be the kinds of perceptions that this place can solely generate. Either that, or a few of the leftists here quickly jump on that person and say "oh, you suck, you're stupid, you dumb racist. Period." -- instead of taking some initiative (like I tried to by suggesting some solid material) to perhaps...improve this place?
There are many other sites that I can/do attend that are much more insightful to "Serious Discussion" ... insightful in that even people who are racists/right wing/etc are tolerated (like this place, which is fine and great, wouldn't want it any other way) but the arguements actually have more than the "pseudo-critical-analysis" that people do here... in the end, I'm just, I don't know -- surprised? -- at the fact that so many people here are so justified and happy to be Ignorant about their knowledge concerning world events.
For example:
- Riot occurs.
- Someone reads Internet news, watches TV news.
- Someone decides that what they see on the news is enough to formulate a valid opinion and the 'backbone' is based on years of watching the same kind of news.......
- Someone runs to a computer to type out formulated opinion.
- Someone is furthermore justified when other Someones who gather their information in the same way agree with them. Or disagreement fits in as well. ie: "Damn racists!" (right wing) "America, fuck yea!" (right wing) "You people are stupid!" (left wing) "Yeah, more stupid people, omg" (left wing) ----- typical pattern of a DF political conversation
- Semi-Informed Person comes along and decides to suggest that the Someone's should read "Book" with actual research and facts in them to gain a better understanding.
- Semi-Informed Person is ridiculed, called a 'pseudo-intellect' and whatnot. (Slander to make him/her look like their intent is to be all "High Order" over everyone) -- remember, I speak in tones that are reflective of DF. Don't "mature tone" me..my ass...
- Semi-Informed Person leaves the Someone's and goes back to his/her life of gathering OTHER INTELLECTS research to expand his/her understanding (no rampant opinion being spread, keep that in mind!)
- Someone's go back to their Google News clippings...
- The world goes round.
Now, great. I'm happy if your ignorance is bliss and you refuse to take up an open suggestion. I'm not here to label and judge any more than you people are. But, I am astounded when I see the refusal to expand one's knowledge because of....pride? You tell me.
Something like that. Has nothing to do with "not being able to agree".. you can't be that dense..
Edit:
I should add, the opinions I let out were in regards to the people on DF, NOT on the ISSUE OF THE RIOTS. Don't label X and call it Y. Yes, I insult the way you people converse here. Yes, I advocate that the thought-process/discussion process should be critisized. Yes, I realize that in the end, this is a website with "senior members with traditions and clicks" so that I'm ultimately going to get stomped on and ignored, but hey.. I had a few minutes to spare, so I thought I'd try to voice a new perspective on HOW to discuss, not WHAT to agree/disagree on.
Last edited by Asher : 11-10-05 at 09:35.
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