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10-08-05
hmm, my god! you tellin' me i was wrong? then what the hell was i thinking about....
or wait, no.....no, it was used....yeah, the ontological argument (or was it teleological....i always get them confused)
yeah, no.....yeah, i'm right...."cogito ergo sum" was used....."i think, therefore i exist".......thereby, thinking is that which proves existence; perception bein' involved, a-priori, sentience, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah.....
the mind (which does the thinking) is a metaphysical entity (if, you agree with the justifications that the metaphysical does indeed exist......and, Descartes dualism: mind seperate from body, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah.....i'm a substantial-dualist of a sort myself, or rather, i too agree that the mind is metaphysical in nature....but that's a topic for another day)
anywho, the theory went:
"i think, therefore i exist"
thinking equates existence.....
and in order to think, one needs a sense of perception......now, in terms of existentialism, i myself exist 99.999999999%, while you mah-dear, exist 99.9999998%.........i'm not you, i only percieve you, but i percieve you exist via my own personal perception of my existence....
anywho, metaphysical entities also exist.....not physically, but they exist
you got unicorns, dreaming, God, the mind....
thus: Descartes indepth essay on the metaphysical nature of ourselves was used (if not by him, by philosophers that succeeded him) to prove the metaphysical does exist, from Descartes' theories in dualism, and was used as an argument to prove God exists as well....
absurdist would still argue God does indeed exist, because i can think of him....and also, i think Phenomenalism would say the same thing.......
and, i'm going to have to check up on which argument it was (teleological or ontological) that gave this argument......the counter-argument, i remember, was really fuckin' out there, but highly interesting and justified to a T, and if memory serves me correct, it was Hume's theory.....and if i remember correctly, it was deep in symantics.....
but don't let me say i know what i'm talking about, let me read up on it I was masturbating
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