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Originally Posted by Shadowborn Getting back on topic, having seen films of American soldiers liberating German concentration camps, carrying bodies so thin and emaciated that they can carry two tucked under each arm without much strain, and corpses piled like cordwood in mass graves. |
Like I stated in my previous post's - everyone agrees that many people died in the concentration camps and your'e correct in saying the pictures show emaciated people because their were emaciated people -
EVERYONE AGREES THIS/
However, as I also stated in my previous posts what matters is how they got like that. If we dont try to find the real truth - then history will repeat it self again and again and again until people confront the truth of who or what is responsible. Those people were not gassed, so what happened?
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I'd say there is quite a bit of evidence as to what went on there.
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what evidence? show me straight evidence - explain to me how you would gas a human with ZyklonB pellets.
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Ovens filled with ash and unburned human remains tends to say that they were pretty busy disposing of human beings, wouldn't you say?
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Of course they were pretty busy disposing human beings - albeit dead human beings. If you were in a detention camp with thousands of other people, crammed in with no room to move and people around you were dying of Typhus, Cholera and even starvation would you want the bodies removed?
If there were lots of bodies - how would you get rid of them, because remember if you leave masses of bodies lying around then youv'e got more problems i.e. Rats, Plague, Malaria, Lice, Ants, Worms. Leaving bodies around is not healthy is it? it's more practical to burn dead bodies or bury them, if someone you know dies would you leave the body lying in the street? of course not - you would bury or cremate them, that's what the ovens / crematoriums were for.
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How they were killed doesn't really matter, does it? Gassed, starved to death, shot...dead is dead.
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I agree dead is dead, and WW2 was a tragedy, however Steven Spielberg, Roman Polanski, Simon Wiesenthal and many other jews have perpetuated the myth that German people executed jews in a genocidal plot using gas chambers and ZyklonB - this is not true. No one can prove that there were ZyklonB gas chambers at Auschwitz if they can then I would like to see them stand forward with the proof. When I mean proof I mean real proof, go to the buildings at Auschwitz and gather samples to determine if ZyklonB was used in them rooms. Go to the buildings at Auschwitz and explain to me in exact detail how they produced the gas from ZyklonB pellets. I gaurantee you can't, because ZyklonB pellets are not suitable for gassing people and in fact they are dangerous if not handled correctly.
Like I said the jews wanted Palestine in 1945, the holocaust is usefull for emotional blackmail material and who's paying for it - Palestinian people everyday of there lives. As they say there's no business like shoah business - every major studio in Hollywood is owned by jews, every single newspaper in New York is owned by jews, the Neo-Cons who are all jews have dragged America, Britain and others into an Iraqi war.
Try a little exercise if you will. For a single week count how many times the 'Holocaust' is mentioned in your newspaper, TV programmes, main news or even on an advertisment / magazine. Then count how many times the 30 million people murdered in communist Russia are mentioned and notice the difference. I gaurantee you will see the jewish 'holocaust' story several times during the week, and yet you will be very lucky to hear about the Russian victims of communism - maybe not at all. why is this?
why?
Would it surprise you to know that some jews are sceptical about the gas story themselves, for example Norman Finklestein has written many books on the Holocaust industry and how jewish people have used this myth to garnish world sympathy and to obtain an immesurable amount of wealth:
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/
What shocks me is that when people are told that 6 million jews were not gassed in WW2 they get depressed, upset and instead of being happy about how people were not gassed they insist on believing a story where gassings happened, with this they can sit back and relax, urrgh.
Have a look at 4 independent reports which prove their were no gas chambers
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/ez...Z_chron12.html :
The Leuchter Report - Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. is an expert specializing in gas chambers and executions. He was described by Missouri State Penitentiary Warden Bill M. Armontrout as "well versed in all areas and is the only consultant in the United States [in gas chambers] that I know of." Leuchter examined the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in 1988 and took samples from the walls and floors for forensic testing for cyanide. He concluded that the rooms were not and could not have been used as gas chambers based on their construction and the fact that either no or only extremely small traces of cyanide were found in the brick and mortar samples. In contrast, a room where Zyklon B (the alleged killing gas) was used for disinfection purposes by the Nazis, had 1000 times more cyanide in the samples.
The Krakow Institute Report - Alarmed by the Leuchter Report, the Auschwitz State Museum itself commissioned in 1990 the Krakow Forensic Institute to carry out an investigation of the alleged gassing sites. The Krakow Report fully corroborated the cyanide readings found by Leuchter. The Auschwitz Museum maintains, however, that Poland's acid rain had eliminated the cyanide. This flies in the face of scientific fact that "Prussian blue", the compound formed by cyanide and iron in the bricks and mortar is one of the most stable and enduring compounds known to man. The blue stain is clearly seen in disinfection chambers at Auschwitz today.
The Rudolf Report - Germar Rudolf, a diplom chemist in Germany, investigated the sites of the alleged gas chambers of Auschwitz and took samples for the purpose of determining cyanide levels. Rudolf's report concluded, like Leuchter's, that the alleged gas chambers could never have been used for gassings. Tests on samples showed no or minimal traces of cyanide.
The Lüftl Report - Walter Lüftl is a professional engineer with a large engineering firm in Vienna and was president of the Austrian Association of Engineers. He is regularly called in court cases as an expert witness. In 1992 Lüftl wrote a report calling the alleged extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers "technically impossible." He pointed out that the design of the crematories themselves showed that they were incapable of handling the number of victims alleged. "Corpses are not flammable material," wrote Lüftl. "to cremate them requires much time and energy." Lüftl was criminally charged for writing this report for "denying the Holocaust." BUT ALL CHARGES HAVE BEEN DROPPED.
What i'm trying to help people see is that they are being lied to on a systematic day-to day basis and this is for a real reason. What you have to do is find out why?