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04-18-05

[quote=Dyshade]Here is a site filled to the brim with pictures of the holocaust---

http://history1900s.about.com/librar...blpictures.htm

pictures of the Holocaust???? errr no.

I see pictures of hungry human beings lying on bunk beds, nothing more and nothing less. What's a picture of the 'Holocaust' suppose to look like?

I challenge anyone to show me an actual picture of a person being gassed in a gas chamber in Auschwitz in 1943. The truth is no-one can prodcue this evidence and even if they did so, it's still circumstantial i.e it can be faked.

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Also my Great uncle was in WW2--- he Landed on Normandy on D-Day and was in Buchenwald when they discovered hundreds of dead corpses waiting for the ovens to be cremated..... I think i trust my Uncle over your vaunted "scientific evidence" which is not all that scientific to begin with---
Everyone agrees that there were many people who died in the Concentration Camps including Buchenwald....however some say the reason why they died ( and this is the important point) is because of Typhoid, Cholera, lack of nutrition, lice, local brutality, etc - Not Gas Cambers Using Zyklon B.

The central argument of the Jews and their 'Holocaust' story is that the Nazis planned massed extermination, or genocide and then they executed this plan by gassing large numbers of people using HydroCynic gas found in Zyklon B.

According to the said 'Holocaust' eyewitnesses, they alledge that people - dozens if not more than a 100 people were placed in a chamber, and then a soldier outside climbed a ladder to the roof where he opened a hatch and poured Zyklon B pellets into the room full of people, or another story is that people were placed in a room and then a gas motor was used, or another story is that gas was carried by buckets into the room by the gaurds who then crept out of the room before the gass worked etc etc. In addition they alledge at AuschWitz that 12,000 people a day were gassed using two gas chambers.

Alledged Stories can be found here: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/

The most important thing to question here is whether and how Zyklon B can be used to gas someone to death. Fred Leuchter is one of the worlds most authoritive people on gas chambers, he spent his career building them for the US government. He states in his report, that Zyklon B is not used for gassing people, never has been and never will be because it's no good for such a purpose. Zyklon B (this is originally a trade name ) comes in pellets, the Hydrocynic (HCN) gas is produced by heating the pellets in a carefully controlled manner at which point the HCN gas is produced. If you dont control the temperature carefully then it will explode. In addition the room has to be kept free of hazards e.g. people standing up, because otherwise the gas wont circulate.

The big discrepency is that if a soldier climbed onto the roof of a gas chamber with ZyklonB pellets and poured them into a hole over the chamber, how and where does the Zyklon B get converted into gas?

You can't pour gas!

Another question is Zyklon B does not work in damp conditions, in fact it explodes.

Another question is the time taken in the gassings. If a chamber could fit 100 people in it and the time taken for a single gassing is 1 hour which includes loading, gas injection, death, and cleanup, then according to my 24 hour clock this totals 2,400 a day, or doubled = 5,000 a day not 12,000 a day.

Another question is, if you go to Auschwitz you will be told by a tour guide that the buildings standing there today are the original gas chambers, and yet on nearly every 'Holocaust' site they say that the gas chambers were blown up by either the Germans or Russians.

Another thing is- have you ever tried to burn a body? One body requires an immense amount of heat and energy to burn and should take over .5 - 1 hour in the crematoriums. Now if you have 12,000 people gassed in one day and lets say the capacity to burn 16 bodies an hour, then your'e not going to burn 12,000 bodies a day are you. In fact after 5 days you will have over 59,000 bodies. After 3 years you will have over 3.9 million bodies waiting to be cremated. Was there 3.9million bodies? I dont think so. People and soldiers discovered thousands of bodies which were waiting to be cremated..not millions, and the bodies they found were people who had died of disease or starvation - [b]NOT ZyklonB Gas[b]

I could go on...and on and on the story is like swiss cheese - full of holes.

The big point i'm trying to make is that real historians are not allowed to question the 'Holocaust', why? To find the truth in anything then you have to ask questions. The Revisionist's at http://www.ihr.org/ are doing just this, they are top historians who are questioning WW2 and in particular the 'Holocaust' story. Not only are they questioning the story, they have come up with facts which disputes the whole story and in fact exposes it as a fake.

Another important question to ask is why would the jews invent such a story? Now this is easy to answer. In the 1930 many jews left Europe and went to America. With WW2 they saw an opportunity to establish the State of Israel if Britain was weakened by a war, and this is what happened. Palestine in 1940 was under a British mandate and was inhabited by Arabs. The jews saw there chance to grab back Palestine by weaking Britain and inventing a story of 'jewish persecution' i.e. the world felt sorry for the poor little jews. Again I could go on, but I can tell you if you go to the Wet Bank or Gaza and speak with some Palestinians they will back this story up to the hilt. The jews have stolen the Palestinians land and we have helped them to do it and were still helping them.

In short, you have been duped, and this is how I used to be before I started asking questions. Try it for yourselves, instead of accepting everything as facts or even what iv'e stated here, go and find out for yourself what the truth is, but make sure that you judge both sides of the argument objectively.


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Clearwitch has not been a Moderator here for a long while--- if you have a problem with her take it up with her and do not forward your aggression to the New moderator team.... noone gets banned here because of views... also the designs of free speech left you the moment you signed up for this site as it is a privately owned and operated Forum and as such any rules stipulated are rules you must follow just as you agreed to when you signed up... if you do not like them why did you even sign up....???
I dont have a problem with ClearWitch personally (because iv'e never met her/him), but when someone says at the begining of a paragraph

"Controversial and provocative comments are invited . Please use respect and common sense when doing so."

and then lists a long list of things which you can't say, this suggests to me a contradiction in terms and some kind of liberal facisism.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - George Orwell.

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