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Originally Posted by Aeternus How can any population believe in the sincerety of the motives of their goverments if they are not even truthfully told on why the nation is going to war? |
Kind of begs the question, no? You're ASSUMING "Bush lied." But Occam's Razor looks at all the European leaders and the US Congress (BOTH parties)saying exactly what Bush was saying, and concludes that, if every person in power were saying the same thing, they probably believed it, i.e., the intel was faulty.
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but I would imagine the french, russians... perhaps the germans too would have a nice covert ops department somewhere.
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And Germany, the UK... And they all agreed with the US.
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What surprises me therefor is that the european nations did not regard Iraq as a threat, whereas the US alone did
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But let's be clear. France, Russia, Germany, UK, US -- ALL said, at the time, that Saddam had WMD. That fact (that they said that, before March 2003 ) is not in dispute. What was in dispute at the time is: what will Saddam do with those WMD? Is there a risk he would use them against the US? Is there a risk he would sell them to al Qaeda?
Those were the debates raging throughout 2002 and 1Q03, NOT "did he have WMD." That Saddam did have WMD was the broad consensus.
The debate was NOT "did Saddam have WMD." The debate was "what will he do with them, and what should the rest of the world do about Iraq?"
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That in the end were not there...And that is fact.
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In the end, we haven't looked everywhere. In the end, Saddam could have stashed them in a neighbor. But in the end, you know what you know ONLY because the US invaded and took control of Iraq. Else you would never have known.
Don't forget: Saddam's noncompliance was itself
casus belli.
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I'll wait for the results... if it proves true then the UN as a whole has lost all credibility with me. But I'll wait for the official probes, and disregard propaganda shouting...
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Fair enough. And I would hope you bring this same "show me" attitude to the rest of the debate.
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You deny the lobby the oil industry has with the US government? Now THAT would be naivity.
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This has nothing to do with fatuous conspiracy theories.
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Why did the US back out of the Kyoto treaty?
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That's easy. Because Kyoto would impoverish the US, kill off the US poor, and achieve nothing. Look at Kyoto's parameters. It does not stop or reverse global warming. It guarantees that the US enters the Third World, all to slow global warming by some infinitesimal amount. And the real third world is not stopped from creating greenhouse gases at all.
Kyoto is little more than a predatory economic attack on the US.
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Why does the US not try and fund other means of power generation (durable like wind/solar power, or clean nuclear power by fusion reactors)?
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The US DOES fund such research to the tune of huge amounts of money. You can't force scientific (and much more importantly, engineering) breakthroughs to happen. Look at AIDS: you can throw infinite amounts of money at a problem. But it gets solved when it wants to get solved, not before.
The fact remains that none of the boutique power sources can produce appreciable amounts of energy. The one form of energy that CAN compete with fossil fuels -- nuclear -- is OPPOSED by the Marxist Greens. Go figure.