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Originally Posted by Arty What about the ontological argument:
Take the perfect being. Call him God. If he is perfect then all of his properties must be as good as they can possibly be. Whether or not something exists is one of its properties. The perfect being, i.e. God, must therefore exist. |
Existance is needed for perfection, for perfection to create existance. It sounds like a broken loop to me. Taking a conceptual being and giving it the ability to create itself will still not break through the fact that it exists in concept alone and will naturally not be able to make use of that ability.
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Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
Darkness squeezes, Satan`s platypus rises tonight! Bork, bork, bork!