good points Len but youre forgetting that moderators are people, usually powerhungry people who like to enforce thier own ideals on whatever they control. Take errantrouge for example, Heathen and i made totally flameless statements about a movie that sucked we said the movie sucked and the director sucked... Rouge was on his period that day and decided to censor us because hes lame and loves lame movies. I took the issue to the admins and they put a world of hurt on Rouge, even now hes only hours from losing his modship.